ErwiiRommie
Panzer Commander
Sweat saves blood, blood saves lives, brains saves both!
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Post by ErwiiRommie on Mar 8, 2007 19:21:22 GMT -5
*snatches Rommel and says in poor German* Ich habe Herr Rommel und du haben kannen nicht ihr! :-P
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Post by Qualerei on Mar 8, 2007 19:33:37 GMT -5
*opens her German dictionary* uuuuh... I have Mr. Rommel... and... *turns the page*... you don't have him ? Darn, you'd think that, with the Germans having been our neighbours for the past two or three millenia, our languages would be somewhat alike. Well, they're not.
Okay, then. Hans is taken and Rommel as well, or so it seems. Okay, well, I'll do Hans von Luck !
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Post by Desert Stallion on Mar 8, 2007 19:38:55 GMT -5
Rommel's taken? Whimper...
I rather liked the impartial newsman idea myself, but that would leave no one to write Bayerlein. Hmmm...Maybe I'll take them on both, and if that's the case, I have some Bayerlein reseaching to do. I actually have written with him, at the start of my Fox Hunt story.
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ErwiiRommie
Panzer Commander
Sweat saves blood, blood saves lives, brains saves both!
Posts: 81
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Post by ErwiiRommie on Mar 8, 2007 19:39:51 GMT -5
Lol.. I was trying to say "I have Rommel and you can't have him!"
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Post by Qualerei on Mar 8, 2007 19:40:53 GMT -5
Sure, you could write both, and that way you could take part in the military decisions as well. A newsman might be kept aside by Rommel, who wouldn't want the secret plans for his campaign to be published in the newspaper...
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Post by Desert Stallion on Mar 8, 2007 19:50:35 GMT -5
Or the news fella could be writing a paper for Rommel's troops. Gritty Sand Tribune, or something like that. He could provide comic relief now and then, describing Bayerlein's and Han's struggle. What would be a good name for my fella? *ponders*
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Post by Qualerei on Mar 8, 2007 20:00:19 GMT -5
Hey, love your signature, Rommie. And sorry for the mistranslation... I'm afraid I couldn't speak German to save my life. Great idea for the newsman. A German name, eh ? Well, not Hans at any rate, because we already have too of them and it's going to be a bit confusing Well, for a first name, there is Ludwig, Heinrich, Ulrich, Paul, Georg, Rudolf, Dietrich, Adler, Rudiger... And for a last name, Vogel, von Malkowitz (that one was supposed to be a pun...), Koenig, Merhoff, Luttwitz, Heinke, Aurlich, Gessler, Schafstein...
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Post by Desert Stallion on Mar 8, 2007 20:26:53 GMT -5
Just a quick thought on the character viewpoint idea. Obviously, we'd have to write characters other than our own, when they are interacting together in our bit of story. But we could write only the view of our character, his thoughts, beliefs, whatnot. How does that sound? Because it would be hard, like Qual said, to make the pieces run smoothly together.
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Post by Qualerei on Mar 8, 2007 20:46:28 GMT -5
I completely agree. We'd be in our character's head, so to speak. It could give something like :
"Hans (von Luck) tried to refrain a sigh at the constant bickering between Bayerlein and Speidel. Ever since this new and superfluous chief of staff had arrived, things had been... different. And certainly not easier in any fashion... Not that Speidel wasn't competent, but the Afrika Korps had enough to do with the Allies without having to keep the two staff officers from killing each other. Hans cast a sidelong glance at the Field Marshall, and raised an eyebrow. Was it a smile he had seen on Erwin's lips ?
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No. Probably not. At any rate, he didn't see any reason to be happy about the situation. Then again, he didn't have his superior officer's brilliant mind..."
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Post by Wing on Mar 9, 2007 7:04:24 GMT -5
*snatches Hans*
If Erwin's taken, I get mein uber-cool-ness. You guys would just abuse him. *glares*
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Post by Qualerei on Mar 9, 2007 11:08:40 GMT -5
Abuse him ? I just had a few guards wake him up... well, maybe a bit roughly, but nothing... permanent. You're one to speak. Who put him in a cell and had him tortured by the Gestapo, eh ?
All right then, it's settled. So what plot shall we use ? The one I suggested ? Another one ?
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Post by Wing on Mar 9, 2007 12:47:13 GMT -5
Hey, whoa there, did I? Uh, no. The Gestapo really did. I'm just retelling it...er...with some additions...
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Post by Desert Stallion on Mar 9, 2007 19:55:04 GMT -5
Uh-huh. Hey, timeline-wise and historically, here's some stats for our Round Robin, on Bayerlein's service. Concerning Africa... In October 1941, Bayerlein was sent to North Africa. October 5, 1941:Chief of the General Staff of the Afrikakorps December 7, 1942:Chief of the General Staff of the German-Italian Panzer Army Afrika He was sent to Italy on sick leave before the German troops in Tunisia surrendered on 12 May 1943. So when should this take place? I love the plot you've suggested, Qual, and I think we should do it. Should the story lean more towards a serious fight to remain C-o-S, or should it be more comical, pranks and whatnot? Maybe Ludwig Luttwitz will be my newsman. Thanks for the name suggestions. Now I get to create a character, though he'll mostly be commenting on the action now and then.
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ErwiiRommie
Panzer Commander
Sweat saves blood, blood saves lives, brains saves both!
Posts: 81
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Post by ErwiiRommie on Mar 9, 2007 22:32:28 GMT -5
Why not both? We can save the serious fight towards the climax. Of course it cant be in front of the others, especially Rommel, because it would hurt either one of them. Career-wise, so it wouldnt make sense. Perhaps... Fritz and Hans get lost in the middle of a sandstorm, seperated from Rommel's car, and as they attempt to find their way back, arguing over which way to go and the sun and heat getting to them they both snap?
The only witness is the driver, unless he somehow bites it along the way.
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Post by Qualerei on Mar 9, 2007 23:08:23 GMT -5
Hehe, and we could even have one of them challenge the other in a duel, so the survivor remains the one and only Chief of staff... haha, I think we're going to have fun with this. As for the date, what about January 1942 ? On the 20th, Rommel counter attacks to retake Benghazi and pushed the Allies away from Tobruk. Then, in may, he starts a Blitzkrieg offensive. So we can start with a nice little fight in January, and then we have until may to write about the tensions between both chiefs of staff. I suppose we should start this from Speidel's points of view, no ? Have at least his arrival described from his point of view, and then the others (Bayerlein in particular) can step in. Speidel might have to face general hostility, since everybody knows Bayerlein and believe in his competence... so he'll need friends, won't he ? I'm kinda tempted to have a rather neutral von Luck, who'd try to smooth things between both C-o-S... and fail miserably, of course EDIT : I just checked the wikipedia page about von Luck, and I discovered he spoke Russian, English and French... so Hans could also serve as a translator, especially with prisoners or when encountering enemy forces. Which gives him at least one good reason to work with both chiefs of staff...
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